WordPress: What is Gutenberg?

You might have felt some tremors in the WordPress world. There is something brewing. Something called Gutenberg. It’s the new editing environment in WordPress and the impact it’s going to have will be massive. Some welcome it with open arms, while others are critical. There is also a large group of WordPress users who don’t have a clue what’s going on. Here, we’ll introduce Gutenberg.

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Gutenberg is the first step for a bright new future for WordPress

It’s something many people often gloss over, but Gutenberg is not just a new editor for WordPress. It’s the start of something much bigger. Gutenberg lays the groundwork for incredibly exciting developments. Gutenberg is stage one of a three-pronged roll-out strategy. First, WordPress will get a redeveloped editor, after that the project will focus on page templates and in the final stage WordPress will become a full site customizer. You can imagine, this gives us endless possibilities and it is a necessary step to keep WordPress the #1 CMS for years to come.

Today, we’re focusing on stage one. The new Gutenberg editor will land in WordPress 5.0 sometime this year. We’re getting closer to the launch and loads of people are working around the clock to turn this editor into a solid and stable product. We have a big team working on it as well, both on the editor itself and our integration with it. Very shortly, we’ll be able to show you the first results of their hard work! So keep an eye on our plugin releases.

Opening Gutenberg for the first time

When you open the new editor for the first time you’re probably looking for the interface we have all grown accustomed to. That, however, is gone. We now have a very clean writing environment, with great typography and lots of space for your content to shine. On the right-hand side, you can open the settings — per document or per block — by clicking on the cog icon. Clicking on the three dots beside that cog lets you switch to the code editor so you can make your edits on the code side of things.

gutenbergNow, seeing this screen might cause you to turn around and run — please don’t. We all know people have a hard time changing from one thing that they know well to something new. Both Marieke and Willemien had reservations regarding writing and editing in Gutenberg.

People find it hard to accept change when they don’t see why it’s necessary to change something that was working ok. Well, in this case, it’s relatively easy to understand: to get ready for the future, WordPress needs to adapt. Gutenberg introduces concepts and technologies that help make WordPress future proof. Most visible right now? The concept of a block.

In Gutenberg, everything is a block

Gutenberg introduces blocks. Previously, your content lived inside one big HTML file and for every enhancement there had to be something new: shortcodes, custom post types, embeds, widgets and the like. All with their quirky interfaces and weird behavior. Now, you can build your content precisely like you make a LEGO set: all from one box, following a standardized and straightforward set of instructions.

By using this blocks concept, you can now determine what every part of your content is. Not only that, you can define their specifications per block. So, for instance, you can turn a single line of text into a quote by changing its block type. After that, it gets a new set of options that you can set. You can change the type of quote, its placement, text decoration et cetera. This goes for all blocks. There are blocks for, among other things:

  • Paragraphs
  • Lists
  • Quotes
  • Headings
  • Code
  • Images
  • Galleries
  • Shortcodes
  • Columns
  • Buttons
  • Widgets
  • And a ton of embeds

Every block you make can get its own layout and settings. And you can save these as reusable blocks!


Reusable blocks

One of the coolest things about Gutenberg is reusable blocks. Think of these as a completed block that you can save along with its settings. For instance, if you’ve made a cool looking layout for the intro of your blog articles, you can save this as a reusable block. After that, you only have to go to Add Block -> Saved to pick your reusable intro block. How cool is that!

This is an incredibly basic example, but you can think of a lot more complex uses for this! How about a complete gallery where you only have to drop in the images. Or a multi-column article template with great typography for killer blog posts. And of course, developers can hook into this as well, so there are bound to arrive some great blocks that’ll make our lives so much easier. There is no limit to this. This is all made possible because we have full control over all individual blocks.

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Let The Gut Guys explain Gutenberg for you

Two of the most active Yoasters in the Gutenberg development team is our UX designer Tim and software architect Anton. These guys are so passionate about Gutenberg that we’re featuring the dynamic duo in an exclusive video series called The Gut Guys — Gut as in ‘good’. They will show you around the Gutenberg editing experience and explain the why and how of the new editor. We’re regularly adding new installments. Watch it and subscribe!

Need more? Check this essential talk

We know thinking and talking about Gutenberg can be tiring, but that’s mostly because we are keeping those thoughts in the now. We should most definitely look at the broader picture and see where Gutenberg can take WordPress. To explain that, I’d like to ask you to invest 45 minutes of your time in watching this essential talk by Morten Rand-Hendriksen.

Conclusion to what is Gutenberg?

There’s no beating around the bush: Gutenberg is coming. We’re getting ready for it and you should as well. The new editor will probably take some getting used to and it might break some stuff, but in the end, we will get a much more streamlined environment with a lot of cool possibilities down the road.

The most important thing you can do right now is installing the plugin. Play with it, test it, break it. Add every issue you find to Gutenberg’s GitHub: things that don’t work or should work better. We need as many eyes on this as we can, so we need you. Don’t just talk and yell: contribute! Your contributions will make or break this project.

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73 Responses to WordPress: What is Gutenberg?

  1. Manaj Banerjee
    Manaj Banerjee  • 2 months ago

    Hello there,
    I learnt something about your Guttenberg plug-in for which developers are working hard to get it introduced shortly with new and developed features for the blog posts. I welcome it. I have a problem — can you please solve it for me?
    Very recently I have got a glimpse about a potential niche about which I would like to write value-added blogs with “affiliate” links based on thorough keyword research on that proposed single niche. But first things first: I have no hesitation in saying that I am a broke now and I have literally not any savings to take the help of any paid web hosting provider. So I have streamlined my action like this way: Wix.com (free version) + Yoast SEO (free version) + online/offline SEO. My question is: does the free version of Wix.com integrate with Your Yoast SEO? Overall, is it a feasible idea? I would be highly obliged if you reply this.
    Awaiting reply,

  2. Rob Carson
    Rob Carson  • 2 months ago

    I watched the video above and font it hard to believe that what send to be the most important questions for now, was never addressed our even asked. “How will this update affect existing content on existing sites?” How will it affect the myriad of existing plugins and themes that people are already using to get WordPress to do what Gutenberg is going to do?” For example WPBakery, and similar tools. “What will it take, how many hours will it take, to get the sure just to work right and display content as it did before the Gutenberg update?”

  3. Steve
    Steve  • 2 months ago

    Gutenburg? Guten God! I run a business designing websites using Avada & Yoast SEO. I use these two addons because my clients love ’em. I tried Gutenburg on a test site, it’s very basic yes, however, it does seem to create the “blocks”, pages, posts and so on quickly with an easy interface.

    My question is, will WordPress, the base we utilise to attach the Avada theme to, be “the” one and only builtin page/post builder across WordPress, whereby destroying all other page builders?

  4. vicky999
    vicky999  • 2 months ago

    Hi I manage a news site but here we really don’t like Gutenberg. Authors just want to write without having to learn about blocks and designing stuff. They write in word, paste in current editor, choose category and featured image and the post is ready in minutes. It took me a lot of effort -really- to make them use the h2 or h3 headers. And of course posts are pre-designed for the whole site.

    I tried Gutenberg in other clients sites with posts I upload and it made a mess of posts with visual composer or other theme composers like cornerstone in x-theme. Also it still has a lot of problems: buttons not working going back doing the same thing all over again, update not working etc. It is really frustrating that wordpress people are forcing this in to core.

  5. Bromedia
    Bromedia  • 2 months ago

    The idea of building in blocks sounds a lot like the way Drupal and Joomla function, only in Joomla, you didn’t need templates. I thoroughly enjoyed designing in Joomla, because I could make any row a different number of columns on the fly. I didn’t have to count on the template being built to handle it. In WordPress, the need for plugins becomes overwhelming, so I would have been much happier if this thing would have been a true block builder. In any case, our web developer is going to disable Gutenberg with a plugin so we can continue to use VC. As many others have noted, we already spent our time learning to use another way to design that already does whatever it is that Gutenberg is planning to make possible. I think they are trying to make this phase 2 of their mobile blogging strategy where Jetpack failed to launch. If they can make duplicate blocks, it makes it pretty simple to mobilize design, because all you have to do is re-type the copy. That’s my own impression, not something I read. In any case, will your plugin still work in a classic environment, or will it go bonkers when disabling Gut?

    • Edwin Toonen

      Hi, Yoast SEO will work in both the classic editor as well as Gutenberg.

  6. Paul
    Paul  • 2 months ago

    Having read all the above I’m a bit confused. Is it a Plugin and therefore optional or is it completely built into WordPress core and therefore effectively unavoidable?

    • Edwin Toonen

      Hi Paul. At the moment, Gutenberg is a plugin but if all goes according to plan it will be included in WordPress core.

  7. Jean Gogolin
    Jean Gogolin  • 2 months ago

    I’m sure everybody will ask this, but does this mean page builders like Elementor will become unnecessary? Is that why this is happening?

    • Edwin Toonen

      Hi Jean. Page builders will probably be around for a while. It’s been said that Gutenberg is not looking to put page builders out of business, but to give them a solid foundation to work on. Besides, Gutenberg is nowhere near a page builder yet, so we’ll just have to see what happens.

  8. Christiane Jechoux
    Christiane Jechoux  • 2 months ago

    I’m responsible for quite a few client’s WordPress Websites, and to honest, I’m going to wait until the last second to install Gutenberg! The reason being is simple, as much as there are ‘good’ stories out there about the installation per se, there are as many bad ones… And that right there scares me.
    I understand that WordPress is an ongoing project…That said, I’d rather wait and give it a chance…!
    Besides that, looking forward to trying it out once it’s a bit ‘safer’ lol
    Love your plugin and blog posts, keep up the good work!

    • Edwin Toonen

      Hi Christiane. Sure, there’s no rush to start using Gutenberg. But it’s probably a good idea to start testing Gutenberg on a development installation of your websites, not on your live sites. This way, you have a good idea of what works and what doesn’t. It makes updating your sites a bit easier if you know nothing breaks!

  9. Norine
    Norine  • 2 months ago

    Edwin, If it is not broken (WordPress) why fix it? I have six websites and I do not appreciate it when they get messed up. Recently, I lost footers.php from two of them. I know cpanel well enough to recreate the footers, but not without a lot of work. Nap

  10. Rajeev
    Rajeev  • 2 months ago

    I have even facing same issue with Gutenberg. I was already configure “Visual composer” and its working good. But when Try to Gutenberg and configure it was messed up my current existing environment evening facing challenges adding images So Again I configure Visual composer. I would recommend that VC is good one.

    • Edwin Toonen

      Rest assured most plugin and theme developers are releasing Gutenberg proof updates in the coming months.

  11. Claire
    Claire  • 2 months ago

    So, it’s divi? Been using that builder for eons.

    • Edwin Toonen

      No, it’s not divi. Gutenberg as a page builder is something we might get in the future. The first part of Gutenberg is a smart new editor environment and corresponding updates behind the scenes.

  12. Mike
    Mike  • 2 months ago

    I really don’t get why you are so excited about Gutenberg. The rating is still dropping. It’s now at a whopping 2.3 stars. What bothers me most is that Gutenberg messes up the database. The wp_content table should always kept clean. This is not how Gutenberg works. (Shortcodes are not clean either. However, sometimes you simply need them.) Gutenberg, on the other hand, clutters the database systematically. And what is the big advantage? Blocks? Why? Do you need blocks in your WORD document? No! InDesign uses blocks. For a reason. Have you ever edit text in InDesign? No fun! Is WordPress a layout tool? No! It’s an editing tool? I admit that reusable blocks might come in handy. But we’ll have to pay a high price for such a special feature. By the way, I maintain a lot of text-heavy sites. Not a single customer has ever asked me for reusable blocks. Last not least: In a mobile-first world, it’s a pretty bad idea to make a layout more complex.

    • Charles Mooney
      Charles Mooney  • 2 months ago

      “What bothers me most is that Gutenberg messes up the database. The wp_content table should always kept clean. This is not how Gutenberg works. (Shortcodes are not clean either. However, sometimes you simply need them.) Gutenberg, on the other hand, clutters the database systematically.”

      Can the poster (or anyone else) give any more detail on this database issue(s)?

    • Rajeev
      Rajeev  • 2 months ago

      I have even facing same issue with Gutenberg. I was already configure “Visual composer” and its working good. But when Try to Gutenberg and configure it was messed up my current existing environment evening facing challenges adding images So Again I configure Visual composer. I would recommend that VC is good one.

  13. Asdeideas Madrid
    Asdeideas Madrid  • 2 months ago

    Same issue with readability, sentences don’t show up in Gutenberg. Also having problem adding images. The idea is awesome but should work to fix some little bugs to be better.

  14. Per Karlsson
    Per Karlsson  • 2 months ago

    I don’t get it. I publish a lot of text. And pictures. But I don’t want to have to think about what design should this or that post have.

    I want to have a template that gives a good basic design. Fiddling about designing “reusable blocks” is just begging for websites becoming more and more messy and less and less readable.

    Do you remember when people started to discover that you could change fonts and colours? “Wow, this is fun, it will make my text look much cooler.” No it did not. It made it less readable.

    As a simple publisher – and not at all a designer (and I don’t WANT to be one either!) – I fail to see what Gutenberg will do for me.

    • Edwin Toonen

      Hi Per. Gutenberg doesn’t force you to think about design, does it? If nothing else you can ‘just’ throw in your text, add an image or two, some metadata and you’re good to go. You don’t have to use any of the new features to get your post out the door.

  15. JudyAnn Lorenz
    JudyAnn Lorenz  • 2 months ago

    I was a little shocked by the first look at the Gutenberg Plugin. I seem to be seeing upgrades as the summer has passed. Perhaps I have become a little more clear on using it. Regardless, it is becoming more clear and seems easier for me to manage to get the look I want. Now, I find myself looking for the blocks in other venues where I want to leave a post. I have been composing in a WordPress site for these other venues to use your plugin to check my readability and SEO before copying/pasting it all into the final place. I have to do some more experimenting to see if I can do that with Gutenberg.
    I have resisted earlier ‘drop and drag’ themes because the ones I had seemed clunky; I couldn’t get the ‘blocks’, sections’ or whatever the term to flow or stick for a professional look. Other people loved the drop and drag systems.

    • Edwin Toonen

      Keep in mind that Gutenberg is in no way a drag-and-drop page builder — yet. Don’t compare it like that. Gutenberg is a new editor with a lot of stuff happening behind the scenes that makes a future life as a page builder possible.

  16. Bill Bennett
    Bill Bennett  • 2 months ago

    I use the free version of Yoast SEO. If I click on the icons in the readability to show, say, sentences that are longer than 20 words, they don’t show up in Gutenberg. Is that right or am I doing something wrong?

    • Edwin Toonen

      We’re working on it, Bill.

  17. Jason Kemp
    Jason Kemp  • 2 months ago

    I watched Morten’s presentation. The most helpful thing he said was that Gutenberg “looks like it’s about visualisation but its really about data.”
    The Gutenberg block concept goes further but some of the better page builders do much of this already but once Gutenberg arrives the possibility is that that page builder thinking will be even more powerful.
    In my view the real challenge will be in making the process as user friendly as possible.

    • Edwin Toonen

      You’re right, Jason! While most of the talk around Gutenberg focuses on the interface side of things, the great power of it lies behind the scenes. By dividing everything into contained blocks we get to do whatever we want with it. And not only that, because rumor has it that search engines are eying all this future blocked content as well.

  18. Jim
    Jim  • 2 months ago

    I’ve been using Gutenberg and for the most part, I like it, but there are still a lot of bugs to be worked out. There are also some changes I don’t like such as the URL bar not letting you search through your posts.

  19. Nuel
    Nuel  • 2 months ago

    An amazing masterpiece thou some issues need to be rectified can wait for the next update

  20. Marcus Tibesar
    Marcus Tibesar  • 2 months ago

    The Spacer block (not mentioned above) comes in real handy when converting your site’s pages to Gutenberg one by one! It’s useful for restoring white space that can be lost in the conversion from classic to GB.

    • Edwin Toonen

      Nice! Great tip Marcus, thanks.

  21. Fuvestibular
    Fuvestibular  • 2 months ago

    That seems great! I´ve read about it but had no idea the change would be so dramatical like this. However it really
    sounds promising. Cant wait for Gutenberg new features now!

    • Edwin Toonen

      Cool! Have fun trying out Gutenberg!

  22. Adan Ramirez
    Adan Ramirez  • 2 months ago

    Es un gusto saber que el equipo de Yoast está trabajando de cerca con Gutenberg. Abrí Gutenberg la semana pasada para probarlo y noté que Yoast no reconocía la «palabra clave» en el primer párrafo del texto, así que desactivé Gutenberg. Pero el equipo de Yoast está aquí eso me da confianza en que Gutenberg va hacer grandioso.

  23. Rick Figley
    Rick Figley  • 2 months ago

    Will a theme be needed with Gutenberg editor? Will sites built with drag n drop builders break?

    • Edwin Toonen

      Hi Rick. Most themes will probably continue to work fine. But if they’re updated for Gutenberg you can expect a couple of nice additions like support for full-width images and color schemes. Sites built with drag-and-drop builders should be ok. A number of site builders have announced they will support Gutenberg from the get-go.

  24. James Yokr
    James Yokr  • 2 months ago

    Well, how about talking specifically vs. in general?
    1) if you copy/paste from Word what comes along and what gets dropped?
    2) Does Gutenberg (“G”) include TABS?
    3) Does G include MS-Word’s TAB typography (dots and dashes from where you inserted TAB and where the TABBED item is shown?)
    4) Can you use Google Fonts? Are they on the list of fonts in Editor?
    5) Can the font choice apply to ONE WORD or even ONE LETTER vs. the entire paragraph?
    The rest of what you mention is nice but the above list is some of what really matters.

  25. Henry Bowman
    Henry Bowman  • 2 months ago

    That all sound good for writing, and page design but what about products? We use WooCommerce as many do and the real trick with products is how it is displayed and how well that works in the theme.
    We will have to try this out on a test site for some time before I’d feel comfortable with the editor live. I am excited however as I’m from the old days of Dreamweaver, when you had to make everything from scratch.

    • Edwin Toonen

      Hi Henry. How cool would it be to build your product pages by picking the right Gutenberg bocks from your WooCommerce site? I can imagine things like this becoming incredibly easy with Gutenberg. But this all hinges on how well other developers support Gutenberg.

  26. Lori Stammer
    Lori Stammer  • 2 months ago

    I have tried it and did my best to love it for the following reasons I don’t:
    1. The blocks are too small even on a 27 inch screen
    2. Too many clicks to view tool bar or anything else
    3. Why copy Druple?

  27. Eric Brereton
    Eric Brereton  • 2 months ago

    Our website is on WordPress what impact is Gutenburg going to have on it

    • Edwin Toonen

      Hi Eric. That’s hard to say. The easiest way to determine what Gutenberg does on/to your site is testing it on a development install.

      • James York
        James York  • 2 months ago

        It’s “hard” to say??? You’re kidding! I can hear my clients now when I tell them I have to reconfigure their website because Gutenberg screwed it up.
        I am reading a lot about Gutenberg and it MUST be deployed as a plugin and not embedded in WP itself.
        It provides features I never asked for and do not know what they are as in “blocks” … so I need blocks for??? ___________________.

  28. john a gallagher
    john a gallagher  • 2 months ago

    We always hear the same line you technicians. THIS IS A MUST! Well for your jobs but not for our jobs which is putting out content – without interruption! Your own words back this up ….
    “The new editor will probably take some getting used to and it might break some stuff, but in the end, we will get a much more streamlined environment with a lot of cool possibilities down the road.”
    WE have our jobs to do, that’s what we care about NOT “a lot of cool possibilities” for you!!!!

    • Edwin Toonen

      Hi John. We publish loads of content here on yoast.com so we’re in the same boat. We are testing what works and what doesn’t and are gradually moving over to Gutenberg. Our kb.yoast.com site already runs on Gutenberg and is doing just fine.

      • Sjoerd van Heummen
        Sjoerd van Heummen  • 2 months ago

        Nice work Edwin on kb.yoast.com, but the responsive columns were not created with Gutenberg, or do you have a newer version?

      • James York
        James York  • 2 months ago

        What is the big deal? I can create kb.yoast.com now.

  29. Nikola
    Nikola  • 2 months ago

    Hello, I need help! Call me stupid, but I need a clear explanation please – you see, I’m an old-time HTML guy and that works for me 100%. Am I going to be able to use good old (for me) HTML editor in creating my content or I’ll HAVE to switch to Gutenberg?
    Thank you so much!

    • Mike
      Mike  • 2 months ago

      Forget it! Gutenbergs HTML editor is a mess of epic proportions. While the classic HTML editor was far from perfect, it was ok to work with. Gutenberg with all those stupid comments? Nah!

  30. David
    David  • 2 months ago

    Looking forward to it. My only question is.. How likely are errors to occur during this transition? I’m worried about losing data and do not recover my blog.

    • Edwin Toonen

      Hi David. The only thing I can say is: test it! Build a testing environment that mimics your site and install Gutenberg. See what happens. Plus, you should always backup your site and test things before running updates or large-scale changes.

  31. Jean Werk
    Jean Werk  • 2 months ago

    It’s very generous to commit some of your developers full time. Thanks for that !
    I’d like to start deploying Gutenberg to new websites that I’m building but I’ve heard that the Yoast SEO plugin is not fully compatible with Gutenberg yet.
    Do you know roughly when Yoast SEO will be ready for Gutenberg ?

    • Edwin Toonen

      Hi Jean. We will be releasing our first Gutenberg supported version tomorrow!

  32. Danielle
    Danielle  • 2 months ago

    WordPress is known for creating a lot of fuzzi code. Not really basic, clean fast loading html. Where a simple page (likes this page) normally should need a few lines of basic html and css, wordpress almost needs a novel length of html, css and scripts. I always wondered why. Will Gutenberg change that …. Or will it just increase the possibilities to create more fuzz and random code …

  33. Stuart
    Stuart  • 2 months ago

    What happens to our existing blogs? If I use the plugin will I need to change the blogs I have already?

    • Edwin Toonen

      Hi Stuart, nothing should happen to your old blogs. All your content will remain like it is until you make the choice to convert your posts to Gutenberg blocks, should you ever feel the need. New posts will be using Gutenberg blocks by default of course.

  34. Mahesh Lamsal
    Mahesh Lamsal  • 2 months ago

    I find Gutenberg quiet interesting. I have installed and i have no problem with it.

    • Edwin Toonen

      Great to hear, Mahesh!

  35. Alif Setiawan
    Alif Setiawan  • 2 months ago

    for me Gutenberg is a new innovation, this plugin can make article more better to see but for me Gutenberg not easy to use

    • Edwin Toonen

      Give it some time, Alif!

  36. Breno
    Breno  • 2 months ago

    Thanks for sharing these Edwin tips. The new Gutenberg editor is fantastic, it will make it much easier to create the sites. Very good!!!

    • Edwin Toonen

      Glad you’re enjoying it, Breno!

  37. Stephen Vaughan
    Stephen Vaughan  • 2 months ago

    Yes, there aspects to Gutenberg that have some merit. But there are so many issues that are not addressed and not indication form responses to reviews on wether these will ever be addressed. I like many have made obvious suggestions that would greatly sooth the transition but many of these seem to fall on deaf ears.

    Understandably, at this early stage, you wouldn’t expect such a project to be able to cater to all the use cases and workflows that the current editor can handle so its a wonder why the team behind it are so single minded in forcing it as default so early. There are still many bugs and frankly there are many page builders out there already that are superior and actually make Gutenberg redundant. Basically I will be bypassing it.

    And just because it brings us up to date with javascript and REACT, all cool and useful things in themselves, doesn’t mean you can’t create as impressive sites with the current version of WordPress. With a 2.4 star rating out of 5, with over double 1 stars to 5 as of today 11th August, that says a lot. A little bit of humility wouldn’t go amiss.

    • Edwin Toonen

      Hi Stephen. I understand what you’re saying. I’m not saying Gutenberg is perfect — it isn’t and won’t be for some time. There’s still work to be done. At Yoast, we do everything we can to help improve Gutenberg. But we can’t do it alone. The current influx of user reviews shows that people are not happy with it. I’m sure the Gutenberg team will do their utmost best to fix as much as they can before adding it to core. Hopefully someday soon we can all embrace the new editor.
      Ps: It’s not fair to compare Gutenberg with existing page builders as it is nowhere near that stage yet. See it as a souped-up editor.

      • Stephen Vaughan
        Stephen Vaughan  • 2 months ago

        No Edwin,

        I agree that Gutenberg should not be compared on many levels to page builders as, in all fairness, it looks like the whole project is in a very early phase.

        The only thing I would say is that blocks could potentially serve as a good structure for page layout -> sections/rows/columns, flex or grid. In some way Gutenberg could foreseeably become a basic builder and common foundation on which all page builders work off, making changing themes and builders a less messy affair.

        I would also see a plus if users were able to de-block content, convert it back to a single TinyMCE block. This would afford developers the ability to start over with the content.

        Another simple change would be a way to hide the comment tags that delineate the blocks. This would make having to work in the code view more user friendly. And, while we are talking about that part of the interface, let’s recognise that it is a fairly neglected part of WordPress. Recently code mirror was added to WordPress. It needs to be developed further and into more corners of WP as a more emmersive IDE like experience much like what you get on CodePen.

        Don’t worry 😉, I have been dropping many hints to the GB team regarding all this.

  38. Jason Kemp
    Jason Kemp  • 2 months ago

    Thanks for this perspective. However not sure how you managed to complete the column with once mentioning page builders. I haven’t watched the video yet but I will.

    It’s just that for the past 5 or more years a number of developers have been using the page builders we all know and hate / or love as the case may be.

    I swapped from Joomla to WordPress in 2006 and was delighted that WordPress wasn’t using those silly desktop publishing blocks last seen in Pagemaker in the early late 80’s early 90’s. Occasionally I get asked to use Silverstripe and other CMS systems and the exact thing I dislike about them is the page building process / editors.
    OK some of that is UX design but in general page layout using “blocks” has already been done to death. It was the legacy of analog typesetting systems and it was horrible.

    Now I currently use 3 of the 4 top page builders out there and some of them have got a whole lot better than they were. That suits some people but I still like the vanilla WordPress editor and using CSS and the other regular development tools to control page layouts.

    I understand why the new Gutenberg editor is being developed and it may well be great in time but for now anything that gets between me and the raw content is just getting in the way.

  39. crmnigeria
    crmnigeria  • 2 months ago

    I actually tried it. It was really nice with some issues. I had problem adding images. Although I had been using something similar but a lot still need to be done. I can’t wait for the bugs to be fixed.

    • Edwin Toonen

      Yes, there are bugs and they must be fixed. And they will get fixed if we all report on them and maybe even help out fixing them!

    • Deb
      Deb  • 2 months ago

      The website I work with is to help churches relate and work with people who have disabilities. I volunteer all of my time at the site. My Gutenberg Concerns:
      1. Gutenberg “might break some stuff” you say – life is hard your’re making it harder.
      2. G may slow down, change user views and experiences with Manta – a clean and clear template that loads fast , works well with old style and mobile and is intuitive for most uses.
      3. WhenEVER you use the word “Blocks” for your terminology, PLEASE use a familiar synonym (for us millions of non-techy, non-professional website designers and “developers”) that equates to terminology you’ve made us familiar with (i.e. files=folders from about a decade ago), for at least the next two years.
      4. For those of us with ADHD, offer choices in lists or columns without the boxes surrounding them.

      • Edwin Toonen

        Hi Deb, thanks for your comment:
        1. You should not take it for granted that technology ‘just’ works. Test everything. Be critical. Don’t install or do anything on your live site that you’re not comfortable with. Gutenberg probably won’t take down your site, but you should test that — don’t just hope that it works when you hit that switch. Hope is not a strategy.
        2. See number 1.
        3. I’m not sure how someone could misinterpret the concept of a block when every piece of your content will be a block. If you have a great synonym to use, please let me know. You could see this whole thing as a box of Lego’s that lets you pick the right pieces to build the content you want.
        4. I’m not sure what you mean, could you elaborate?

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