Over-Optimization vs Optimization

So Matt said something at SXSW last week about Google introducing a filter / penalty / change. As my inbox is already overflowing with emails from people asking whether they should stop optimizing their site and/or using my plugin, I thought I’d do a quick post. What Matt said was vague at best but he said one thing that leaves little room for speculation:

All those people doing, for lack of a better word, over optimization or overly SEO – versus those making great content and great site.

So, Google wants to do something about over-optimization. That’s not saying they want to do something about SEO. As Matt said on that same panel one more time, they have nothing against SEO, they have something against spamming.

So, if you write texts with a keyword density of 25%, you maybe should be worried. If you install an SEO plugin that helps you write more search engine friendly content (and even warns you when it thinks the keyword density is too high) and optimizes most of the technicalities for you, there’s nothing to worry about. Several Googlers use my plugin, do you really think they’d do that if they considered it over-optimization?

Now, stop over-analyzing everything Matt says and get back to work, building good websites for users.

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95 Responses

  1. AdrianBy Adrian on 19 March, 2012

    Thank you for explanations.

  2. Jonathan BaileyBy Jonathan Bailey on 19 March, 2012

    I wish people could just accept that 95% of SEO is building good content that people want to read. If you can do that, the rest of the stuff is just about making it easier for Google to find.

  3. Gyurka JansenBy Gyurka Jansen on 19 March, 2012

    Agreed. As long as a plugin, extension or anything else helps me make a complete and well-formed page with decent title, description etc. etc. there is nothing wrong with that. As long as all your careful work is in support of the thing that really matters: your actual content. You can even put a shareable, sticky, likeable 2.0 name on “good content” if you like, but in the end that’s it: make something people actually want to find.

  4. AmitBy Amit on 19 March, 2012

    Short an sweet :)

    Totally agree.

    Matt has said time and again that SEO is not a bad thing.

    The problem is cappy sites that spend more time on SEO than actualy content and user experience.

    Hopefully Google’s algo change can differentiate between the two well enough :)

  5. StephBy Steph on 19 March, 2012

    Whew – that had me concerned. I love your plugin and it has been a huge help in guiding me to ensure my user friendly content reaches as many as possible using the best principles of SEO. Thanks Joost!

  6. Thomas RosenstandBy Thomas Rosenstand on 19 March, 2012

    I totally agree. The SEO community has way too many players eager to cry “WOLF” every time Google changes even the slightest bit. If those people spend as much time doing proper SEO for their clients as they do speculating they would make a fortune :-)

  7. AnunturiBy Anunturi on 19 March, 2012

    Keyword density is a myth anyway. Its enough to have the keyword in title, description and a couple of instances in content.

  8. Marcel FuurstedBy Marcel Fuursted on 19 March, 2012

    I believe that some younger “SEO experts” could learn something from Matts statement – but the rest of us will just continue making prober SEO ;)

    Great post, Joost

  9. Peter LaugeBy Peter Lauge on 19 March, 2012

    In my world Google should only look at content. Meta title and descriptions and H1 etc. are for geeks and have nothing to do with content.

    Just because we know what and how to write speciel text in the Title tag, do not make our content better. It’s only manipulation.

    Today Google are much better to understand the content of the page, and should only do so.

    :-)

    • Bill ClaridgeBy Bill Claridge on 22 March, 2012

      Peter, I don’t agree. Correctly constructed mark-up is an important part of your readers experience. When you write a Word document you use titles and other formatters don’t you?
      If you don’t create semantic content that is clear to your readers, how do you expect Google to understand and calculate is relevancy?
      But I take your point. Some people put too much emphasis purely for SEO purposes rather than readability.

      • HolgerBy Holger on 23 March, 2012

        I agree with Bill. Correct mark-up is important. But correct mark-up also means NOT to be spammy. Writing good content for users and correct mark-up, e.g. for better SERPs will create good results in SEO. And a good SEO-PlugIn must help webmaster to do so – just like the SEO Plug-In Joost offers. ;)

  10. Navin KunwarBy Navin Kunwar on 19 March, 2012

    Some of Black Hat SEO Still Work with Google, RIP Panda :P. who says over optimization don’t work check http://www.mastergoogle.com/blog/black-hat-seo-still-works-with-google-2.php. thanks

  11. GayleBy Gayle on 19 March, 2012

    Simple explanation for a common sense subject. “Google is shutting down unless we all stop optimizing” That’s what I heard Matt say ;)
    As always, great write up thanks!

  12. George DinaBy George Dina on 19 March, 2012

    I think this should have been default already.
    There are too many spam websites in top results and other guys who are writing a great content but don’t care or don’t know about this kind of optimization are low in rankings.

  13. Michiel BrandBy Michiel Brand on 19 March, 2012

    It’s interesting to see how a few vague comments by Matt Cutts can lead to an uproar in the SEO community :). It’s rather far-fetched to assume the days of optimizing your site or using an SEO plugin are over.

    Nevertheless, it will be interesting to see how Google’s planned algorithmic changes will pan out in practice, considering that they already seem to have some filters in place for countering spam and keyword stuffing.

    • Joost de ValkBy Joost de Valk on 19 March, 2012

      I wish it remained within the SEO community. It’s the tech press that’s picking it up which is annoying as hell as they don’t know what they’re writing about.

      • Stijn VogelsBy Stijn Vogels on 19 March, 2012

        Turning a fly into an elephant is what gets views and sells ads.

      • Michiel BrandBy Michiel Brand on 19 March, 2012

        Hmmm, I can see that being a problem. The press is usually quite good at unnecessarily blowing things out of proportion. On the other hand, as they say: “there’s no such thing as bad publicity”. :)

  14. Grim CrisBy Grim Cris on 19 March, 2012

    Thank you for you explanatin! I was wondering too if your SEO Plugin will continue to help me or not. I’m glad you wrote about this.

  15. JohnnyBy Johnny on 19 March, 2012

    I’m on your side, I think it’s great news for most website owners, and of cause users to. When that’s said, I think it’s kind of a funny statement, it’s almost like they want to scare people with non-facts.

  16. HelenBy Helen on 19 March, 2012

    Found you post on Google+. Why should Google be against SEO? How would people find our websites then? :)
    There is one true fact you said: Google will always be against spamming tactics.

  17. MaAnnaBy MaAnna on 19 March, 2012

    Joost, thank you for the most excellent post. I have a question about H1 tags. For aesthetics, some folks choose not to show the title on the page. While that still leaves the title tag for Google to index, it takes away the opportunity to max out on the combo of making title tag and H1 a little different. Is this type of design strategy negatively impacting SEO significantly? I’ve only seen folks remove page titles and leave them on posts.

  18. Stevie BlackBy Stevie Black on 19 March, 2012

    Defending your SEO practice purely on statistical ranking numbers is like a baseball manager trumpeting that his team of losers spent more days in first place than anyone else.

  19. BrankicaBy Brankica on 19 March, 2012

    Thanks for this, Joost. I never suspected they would penalize the sites that were using those plugins, that is plain SEO and if I remember one of old Matt’s videos, it is kinda OK to do SEO to help SE know what the page is about. The over-optimizing is something to penalize on the other hand, because it is really a bad experience to read those posts, nothing sounds human and footers have 100 links to different pages… you know what I mean, lol

  20. WouterBy Wouter on 19 March, 2012

    Always keep it on the save side and spread quality content. If you don´t have the time to do it yourself, you can always find someone to do it for you for a good price.

  21. Jared PomrankyBy Jared Pomranky on 20 March, 2012

    Google wants a good user experience and optimization, including your plugin, help that user experience by allowing people to find relevant content. I don’t think Google will be changing that. It’s all about intentions. Hopefully your post allays concerns of the “sky is falling” crowd.

  22. Catherine VenturaBy Catherine Ventura on 20 March, 2012

    Woke up this morning and read – what else – some tech blog blaring this nonsense to the masses. Have to say my first reaction was to click my bookmark for Yoast to find out the real truth behind the SEO doomsayers comments…..much appreciated Joost for the quick analysis.

    I write for my readers and not for the search engines anyways. Always worked for me.

  23. AndrewBy Andrew on 20 March, 2012

    I agree that we should all just get back to building good websites. Ever since Matt Cutts announced a new over-optimisation change is coming out in the next few weeks everyone has been worring far too much about it.

    As long as your site is not crazily optimised then I can’t see it being a problem. Your website should be optimised but it also needs to be user friendly so as long as you have kept this in mind and designed accordingly (ie not done over the top crazy stuff) I can’t see google penalising anyone.

  24. Patrick T. RasmussenBy Patrick T. Rasmussen on 20 March, 2012

    Totally agree with you !

  25. Tim AldissBy Tim Aldiss on 20 March, 2012

    Completely agree, and have just this minute posted a comment on another blog on the same issue http://www.leecolbran.co.uk/google/google-over-optimized-and-over-seod-update-what-does-it-mean/

  26. Gareth A. BoydBy Gareth A. Boyd on 20 March, 2012

    People need to get back to the old ways of optimising their sites. That’s by, writing awesome content, content has become a small part of SEO nowadays.

  27. SerbayBy Serbay on 20 March, 2012

    People understand this issue differently and get panicked. You are right, they are fully against link farms,websites with only aim is selling links with copy content etc.

  28. Usman LatifBy Usman Latif on 20 March, 2012

    A much needed post I believe. Most of the people are not yet aware of this announcement and I wish it doesn’t spread as it becomes difficult for SEO pros to make others understand the truth. But on other end, I believe, this opportunity may provide Google a reason to affect rankings of any website upon there wish. Spamming or Black Hat has been punished since the start so what’s new in this statement. Since there are no set rules for SEO, this sometimes become an issue that how much optimization is the RIGHT level of optimization.

  29. The Vector BoxBy The Vector Box on 20 March, 2012

    meh! some people over-analyzing everything! just enjoy being creative!

    • EvitaBy Evita on 24 March, 2012

      I agree.Just relax and live you life. :-)

  30. Eric GBy Eric G on 21 March, 2012

    In 2012 there shouldn’t be such a thing as SEO. The idea made sense years ago when search engines weren’t as sophisticated but now it has become a business and a way to cook the books. The whole concept of SEO was to help find that golden nugget of obscure info that gets published by some academic once in a blue moon. It is anathema to the notion of sites that regularly publish large amounts of unique, quality content.

  31. iip albanjaryBy iip albanjary on 21 March, 2012

    Everything looks natural is the best, and delivering best content for internet users should be done in the right way naturally. So, content maker need best technique to deliver best content–as compiled in SEO ebooks

  32. Andriya DsouzaBy Andriya Dsouza on 21 March, 2012

    In seo, needs creativity not spamming so its good what will happen in future – for spamming website’s..lets wait & watch..

  33. The Big KBy The Big K on 21 March, 2012

    Yoast : http://www.filiwiese.com/about-fili/ -> Thesis Website. Does WordPress SEO plugin work with Thesis?

    Matt Cutts uses Thesis as well. What does that indicate?

    • Joost de ValkBy Joost de Valk on 21 March, 2012

      That Thesis was popular at the time they created their sites.

      • The Big KBy The Big K on 21 March, 2012

        First: Agreed. But does WordPress SEO plugin work with Thesis?

        Second: Also, Once I migrate from AIO Pack to WordPress SEO; do I need to resubmit the sitemap locations to Google Webmasters?

        Third: News SEO module does not let me specify which categories to include. On our site, we only want just one wordpress category to be considered in the news sitemap and others to be ignored. Do you plan on adding this feature? I’m sure a *lot* of news publishers would find it useful. :)

        • Joost de ValkBy Joost de Valk on 21 March, 2012

          It does work, but some parts are harder or break at times. I don’t give any guarantees anyway but for Thesis I can almost guarantee it’ll break.

          As for News SEO: will add that soon, already have it here ;)

          • Ramesh PawarBy Ramesh Pawar on 21 March, 2012

            Any plan to make sitemap module for Mobile sites? Will it necessary?

    • zimbrulBy zimbrul on 23 March, 2012

      I think Matt Cutts could have used a free theme as well…it won’t make a much of a difference for him lol.

  34. Scott BarnesBy Scott Barnes on 21 March, 2012

    Its always something “rocking” the boat. Just write meaningful content that focuses on the topic. Joost thanks for your great plugin! It makes life so much easier!

  35. Steve ChambersBy Steve Chambers on 22 March, 2012

    Ha-ha good to see a straight to the point post about this over optimisation hype. Everyone loves good content Google and Users…

  36. Shade WilsonBy Shade Wilson on 22 March, 2012

    Thanks, good post. Think the operative word here is moderation.

    If you’re trying to get too cute with your implementation, then you might have an issue. If you’re just trying to optimize real content then you should be just fine.

  37. Jimi HoveBy Jimi Hove on 22 March, 2012

    Thank you for being short and precise. Why would Google ruin SEO ? We build the web. It doesn`t make sense.Your site was too bad, now fix it. It`s that easy

  38. DavidBy David on 22 March, 2012

    I have used your plugin with great success. And I concentrate on producing relevant weekly updates. I target three posts per week. One tip: write specific alt tags for each of your images. My site is on page #1 of Google for very competitive search terms. Thanks for this excellent plugin. Have a great day.

  39. DJ MorrisBy DJ Morris on 22 March, 2012

    Amen Yoast, your plugin rocks and the sites I have it installed on all went up in the rankings for their main keywords :-)!!!

  40. PaulBy Paul on 22 March, 2012

    I like your style, short and to the point. Lets all work on putting out better content and spend less time worrying about what Google is doing. Just think of it this way: What kind of grade would you receive from your teacher for what you have just posted? Work on pleasing the reader, use this plug in of Yoast’s to make Google happy and be on with your day.
    In the end the reader has to read your content not the Google bot. And if it sucks the reader is going to let you know by not engaging with you and your site or ever returning.

  41. Dom WintBy Dom Wint on 22 March, 2012

    Completely agree. There are, for want of a better word, “ethical” methods to promoting your site: you can’t just rely on its existence to give you good results in search, so there has to be some form of promotion, just like with a physical product. Google can’t punish you for that. Not yet, anyways!

  42. Gary MarksBy Gary Marks on 22 March, 2012

    A concise well written article to help us mortals see the light of day. I think the comments in this thread enforce that.

    Thanks

  43. Jack ThomasBy Jack Thomas on 22 March, 2012

    Probably only time will tell exactly how Google views over optimization, so it’s likely a good idea keep a close eye on your present ranking for your website, if you notice that your ranking drops it’s probably a good sign that you are over optimized!

  44. JimBy Jim on 22 March, 2012

    Nicely put Joost;

    I think it is obvious, when a site has 100,000 backlinks and most of them are “spammy” and the next site has 500, then I think someone may just lose their place in the ranks.

    I totally agree with your comments about on-page, a far too ignored topic that can rank many sites all by itself.

  45. David LamoureuxBy David Lamoureux on 22 March, 2012

    I’ve been reading enough from other bloggers to know there’s good and bad SEO. The bad SEO was a big reason for the whole Panda Update 3.0 and 3.3 and the rest to come. I use your plugin and love it. It makes every page and post more work, but it disciplines me to make my content work to sell my site. Thanks.

  46. WolfgangBy Wolfgang on 22 March, 2012

    Thank you Yoast, I agree with you and also with Google, it’s time the spammers who steal content and use link farms, and any other ways they can to try to fool Google and Google users to be closed down.

  47. Peter WoosterBy Peter Wooster on 22 March, 2012

    Hi Joost,

    I use your plugin on my own sites and all the sites that I manage. It does a wonderful job of reminding me of the things I should add to pages and posts without forcing me to do it. Once in a while it tells me that I should add a keyword to an h1 or title, where it just doesn’t fit, in those cases I just ignore the advise. That’s part of what makes this plugin so great.

    I follow Matt Cutts on twitter and read his blog and watch his videos, I’m sure you are right on this one, if we make content and markup that helps our readers, the bot will like it too.

    /peter

  48. pcaWebBy pcaWeb on 22 March, 2012

    As many have said, there’s a huge overreaction from the SEO goo-roos anytime Matt Cutts even sneezes.

    Good content is what we all want and what Google wants to find for us. It’s only those attempting to ‘gane’ the system who need to be worried.

    • pcaWebBy pcaWeb on 22 March, 2012

      er, I meant ‘game’ the system :)

    • EmilyBy Emily on 22 March, 2012

      Totally agree that ultimately How Google ranks sites (so SEO) is about good quality content and making sure that your website is for people and not for Google.

      Building websites just for Google won’t get you sales either…the Googlebot doesn’t buy things just crawls them. Websites made for people get people to buy things!

  49. Herschel LawhornBy Herschel Lawhorn on 22 March, 2012

    Hi Joost,

    Great Post. I agree that I sometimes get caught up in trying too hard to make sure everything is just right for SEO and forget to make sure the content is as good as it should be, but I am working on doing a better job on the content.

    I am certainly glad I don’t have to worry about using your plugin.

    Thanks for all your hard work on our behalf.

    Herschel Lawhorn

  50. Paxton PriceBy Paxton Price on 22 March, 2012

    I hope Matt is accurate in his statement and they do penalize poor website publishers. It’s amazing how many crappy websites, plastered with adsense, rank well due to over optimization.
    Quick question for anyone kind enough to respond. Do websites with slideshows and gadgets rank well with google? Does it hurt SEO? Or am I better to have a simple magazine type blog site without all the pretty features. I’ve heard Google has a hard time indexing complicated layouts.

    • Tony GilbertBy Tony Gilbert on 23 March, 2012

      I agree completely, and just commented on another blog with the same sentiment. Time and time again, despite Google warning about poor quality content, I see horrible sites with crazy on and off-site optimization rank number 1. I hope this finally makes a dent.

  51. Steve AdamsBy Steve Adams on 22 March, 2012

    I think your post may be over optimized. ;-)

  52. Riaan AggenbagBy Riaan Aggenbag on 22 March, 2012

    Well said!
    In other words: I agree :) so let me get back to satisfying my readers, visitors & clients…

  53. Carlos LainBy Carlos Lain on 23 March, 2012

    Great, thanks for this post. :)

  54. Sam IngersollBy Sam Ingersoll on 23 March, 2012

    Fire Your SEO Guy
    …and hire a great writer instead. :)

  55. Wm Brian MacLeanBy Wm Brian MacLean on 23 March, 2012

    As a webcomic artist, my content is embedded in my webcomic image. My only searchable content is my post title & my SEO search terms. How does this affect me? Should I include my webcomic dialgue & other text into the body of every post?

  56. Tight Line ProductionsBy Tight Line Productions on 25 March, 2012

    I’m glad Google is cracking down on Black Hat SEO tactics. It’s a real uneven playing field for those of us that work hard for our ranking. A LOT (and I mean a LOT) of people, companies pay mucho $$$ for top SEO rankings.

    If you write good content, are ethical, and patient, you will be successful in the SEO industry. Good write up!

    Cheers

  57. Nick Nerja MillsBy Nick Nerja Mills on 26 March, 2012

    For sites like mine where the intention is to create interesting and readable content, relevant to the visitor who is trying to find out about the town I live in (Nerja), it is pointless stuffing the pages with keywords to try to fool Google. Even if it works the visitor will soon disappear and not return. I hope Google do act on sites that rank well in searches but offer absolutely nothing of any value when someone clicks on their link.

  58. Sean PearseBy Sean Pearse on 26 March, 2012

    Another great post Joost I’ve noticed a shake up this morning in local SERPs, I think this update over the weekend has really clamped down on keyword stuffed Titles and descriptions

  59. velaBy vela on 26 March, 2012

    I hope google will be transparent with this change and tells what is the right amount keyword density per article.

  60. Jeroen RommelaarsBy Jeroen Rommelaars on 26 March, 2012

    You had me worried there for a bit! I guess that’s the power of a catchy title for your post…
    Just sticking to normal SEO with your own plugin and we should be alright I guess :)

  61. EvolveBy Evolve on 28 March, 2012

    Half of what Matt says is smoke and mirrors. I also hate when a bunch of you start saying “quality content blah blah blah” and keep buying links from ALN. Or you preach the same cool aid about quality content and still don’t make a dime in this game.
    Yes, quality content is cool, we get it. But you got nothing without linkbuilding.

    • ToddJirBy ToddJir on 2 April, 2012

      Totally agreed! Don’t worry as much about Google and build links that bring you traffic! It may take time to build links that bring you good traffic but in the end you will have a much more stable business!

  62. Kim SmidtBy Kim Smidt on 28 March, 2012

    Im looking forward to the new changes, and the challenges it may bring. But i dont really think the ground values of SEO will change. The only thing i hope, is that a million links from spam sites gets lets value in ranking!

  63. BradBy Brad on 29 March, 2012

    Man some people are on edge if that is the conclusion they are jumping from Matt’s comments.

  64. surajBy suraj on 29 March, 2012

    Balance has to be maintained for optimization and SEO or good content will have to enter into politics of shallow and excessive optimazion…

  65. mahenderBy mahender on 31 March, 2012

    Sometime it happens because of lack of knowledge also, I remember I have placed around 22 % keyword density post bcz I was not aware of the fact, your plug-in has come as rescue and I could come out of the issue.

  66. Henry SimBy Henry Sim on 3 April, 2012

    I used SEOPressor that assist me to ensure that my page content is keyword and font optimized.With the latest comment from Matt, all of us should check our work, better safe than sorry.

  67. Jared EronduBy Jared Erondu on 5 April, 2012

    The last point you made is the most important. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems that a lot of the people who jump to things like this sub-consciously know that they’re not outputting the best of content. (not everyone, however).

    Now, I’m not saying to stop caring about SEO, not at all. Rather, give equal, or more, attention to your content. If it’s good and your SEO is decent, you’ll be fine.

  68. MichaelBy Michael on 6 April, 2012

    I read the original report and reading this one put me more at ease. I mean I can still SEO just keep it within reason.

  69. Ari WahyudiBy Ari Wahyudi on 10 April, 2012

    Well put, Joost. I want to be friend with Google, but I want to be friend of my readers more. My readers are not Google bots :)

  70. Ron HigginsBy Ron Higgins on 10 April, 2012

    Nice post, short, sweet and to the point

  71. Mike HaydonBy Mike Haydon on 12 April, 2012

    I’m sure for some people in our industry it is quite lucrative to regularly claim “the sky is falling”. Good SEO is about making great content easy to find. Which is why your plugin rocks. Thanks Joost.

  72. Frank S.By Frank S. on 12 April, 2012

    I hate to preach the same thing that Matt is always saying but, by optimizing your relevance will be more quality to the users of the web. Google is always looking for the most relevant websites and information on the topic searched. If you have quality content optimized and relevant to the topic than you should be more than fine. Not only with your results but with not getting penalized.

    Thanks for the Post Joost!

  73. kevin redmanBy kevin redman on 13 April, 2012

    Ifs always funny how people want to try to always cut corners, As lots and lots of people have said now before and after you should be writing great content for your readers that should be your primary concern

  74. TerenceBy Terence on 14 April, 2012

    Search engines can’t actually determine the quality of the content they are indexing. This means, on average, the quality of information which is shared via social networks is way higher than what is returned by search engines.

    Put simply; people are much better than machines at knowing what people like.

    SEO is how we pander to the machines, and not a good way to produce content. It’s far better to take your content straight to the audience, cut out the intermediary, and let people decide if they like what you’re saying, or not.

    Don’t get me wrong — SEO is something you need to implement properly to avoid missing out on all that organic search traffic — but these days most modern blogging platforms with help from plugins incorporate good on-page SEO principles into their basic design.

    My issue is not that SEO should be ignored, but that often it leeches the lion’s share of resources from projects and enterprises which should be spending their budgets and energy going after far more important prizes, like authority, social influence and reach.

    If you make a fair appraisal of where SEO and Social Marketing have their strengths and weaknesses I think you will see, these days, having a strong Social Strategy is more important than having strong SEO.

    If you like, think of social marketing as, the best kind of off-site SEO you can get.

    Terence.

    • EvolveBy Evolve on 15 April, 2012

      Social is just about 10% of the whole SEO game. SEO is content provision and support. Social networks can not provide any coherent financial or medical info product by default. SEO is not just building links or putting a quality product out there. It’s much more. I don’t even understand why you separate social marketing and seo, SM is just a part of it and not the biggest one.

      • TerenceBy Terence on 15 April, 2012

        I am afraid you’re hung up on size for some reason.

        It’s a common mistake.

        In my many years of online marketing experience, I’ve seen a wide variety of companies and individuals enter the web marketing space with different ideas about what’s likely and what’s possible, as well as different levels of understanding about what or who their competition really is.

        In all cases, an understanding of the competitive search and social media landscape will help content marketers (and content marketing is what SEO is all about, after all), differentiate to better attract and engage with customers.

        Where size really matters is in authority, social influence and reach.

        Terence.

      • TerenceBy Terence on 15 April, 2012

        If you don’t want to take my word for it, why not check out what Darren Rowse, Chris Brogan, Brian Solis, John Jantsch and Seth Godin would tell you over at SitePreBuilder.

        Terence.

  75. Navin KunwarBy Navin Kunwar on 15 April, 2012

    “I believe that some younger “SEO experts” could learn something from Matts statement – but the rest of us will just continue making prober SEO ;)” agree with marcel :)

  76. Marcel FuurstedBy Marcel Fuursted on 15 April, 2012

    Thanks, Navin ;)

    • Navin KunwarBy Navin Kunwar on 15 April, 2012

      Marcel one more thing. i was using transposh WordPress plugin which translates the post to different languages. those post are indexed in google also. does panda effect in this case ?