Comments on: Google Analytics: adding search engines http://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=google-analytics-adding-search-engines Tweaking Websites Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:09:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= hourly 1 By: Liam Delahuntyhttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-29852 Liam Delahunty Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:48:39 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-29852 Hi Joost, Is there any reason why your custom se.js doesn't have google.com whereas ga-experts does?Kind regards, Liam Hi Joost, Is there any reason why your custom se.js doesn't have google.com whereas ga-experts does?

Kind regards, Liam

]]> By: André Scholtenhttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22786 André Scholten Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:16:39 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22786 Yeah, I know: it doesn't.The Google Analytics tracking script is just an other piece of javascript in the eyes of the Yahoo spider. And as far is I know Yahoo doesn't have a 'penalize-sites-with-google-analytics' algorithm. Yeah, I know: it doesn't.

The Google Analytics tracking script is just an other piece of javascript in the eyes of the Yahoo spider. And as far is I know Yahoo doesn't have a 'penalize-sites-with-google-analytics' algorithm.

]]> By: Marc Kleinhttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22784 Marc Klein Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:44:01 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22784 Hello,I am using Google Analytics for some time now. Does anyone know if the implementation of the Google Analytics script has any influence on the SERPs on Yahoo.com? Any experiences?graphically & sincerely,Marc Klein mediaVinci - The art of invention Hello,

I am using Google Analytics for some time now. Does anyone know if the implementation of the Google Analytics script has any influence on the SERPs on Yahoo.com? Any experiences?

graphically & sincerely,

Marc Klein
mediaVinci - The art of invention

]]> By: Sinthttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22460 Sint Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:10:58 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22460 @Vancouver Island Daryl: One of the main reasons for using an analytics-tool is to improve funnel conversions and reduce bounce rates, so my opinion is when you know how to use the data GA presents in your advantage, Google using the same data for their rankins doesn't necessarily have to be a negative side-effect.I also look forward to learn about the results of using the new meta-tag. @Vancouver Island Daryl: One of the main reasons for using an analytics-tool is to improve funnel conversions and reduce bounce rates, so my opinion is when you know how to use the data GA presents in your advantage, Google using the same data for their rankins doesn't necessarily have to be a negative side-effect.

I also look forward to learn about the results of using the new meta-tag.

]]> By: Richard Hearnehttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22455 Richard Hearne Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:32:05 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22455 Now what would be really nice would be to pick out things like 'pages from [country]' searches. I think that's a stat that could be very useful. Now what would be really nice would be to pick out things like 'pages from [country]' searches. I think that's a stat that could be very useful.

]]> By: Vancouver Island Darylhttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22449 Vancouver Island Daryl Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:53:39 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22449 I personally stay away from Google Analytics as it can hurt rankings based on bounce times. There was an SEO firm that did some experiments and they were able to impact their SERPs. A cool new topic you might want to blog about is Googles new unavailable_after meta tag. This could be potentially a powerful tool for Webmasters, especially when you get stuck with stuff in the index you no longer want. Cheers. I personally stay away from Google Analytics as it can hurt rankings based on bounce times. There was an SEO firm that did some experiments and they were able to impact their SERPs. A cool new topic you might want to blog about is Googles new unavailable_after meta tag. This could be potentially a powerful tool for Webmasters, especially when you get stuck with stuff in the index you no longer want. Cheers.

]]> By: tarmo888http://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22445 tarmo888 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:21:04 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22445 Reason why images.google.com is sometimes reported as a referrer is because sometimes people come to your site from image search pages where query_variable (q= on google sites) is not present. Referrer is counted as Search engines only if both are present.You DO NOT need to include images.google.com to your search engine list because it is counted already with _uOsr[0]='Google'. Reason why images.google.com is sometimes reported as a referrer is because sometimes people come to your site from image search pages where query_variable (q= on google sites) is not present. Referrer is counted as Search engines only if both are present.

You DO NOT need to include images.google.com to your search engine list because it is counted already with _uOsr[0]='Google'.

]]> By: tarmo888http://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22443 tarmo888 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:41:25 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22443 i found a solution (for “_uOsr[20]=� problem), so all new custom search engines won't overwrite original google ones, even if they add more than they have now http://digg.com/programming/How_to_add_new_search_engines_to_Google_Analytics i found a solution (for “_uOsr[20]=� problem), so all new custom search engines won't overwrite original google ones, even if they add more than they have now
http://digg.com/programming/How_to_add_new_search_engines_to_Google_Analytics

]]> By: Blendhttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22435 Blend Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:14:27 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22435 Thanks for this. The script is good. I will try. Thanks for this. The script is good. I will try.

]]> By: VanaXhttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22405 VanaX Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:51:01 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22405 The script is good, getting better information from google analitics as we speak ! :) hope that they add more functions later on, so that google analitics stays one of the best for me !thx for makin this happen The script is good, getting better information from google analitics as we speak ! :)
hope that they add more functions later on, so that google analitics stays one of the best for me !

thx for makin this happen

]]> By: André Scholtenhttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22395 André Scholten Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:59:16 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22395 Sint, I agree with you that it 'should' work, but right now Google Image search is showing as a referrer in stead of organic. Something is going wrong there. Sint, I agree with you that it 'should' work, but right now Google Image search is showing as a referrer in stead of organic. Something is going wrong there.

]]> By: MattBeehttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22397 MattBee Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:06:36 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22397 Ah, I like the include, a much nicer solution ;)"lycos.nl"; "query"; "altavista.nl"; "q"; "ixquick.com"; "query"; Ah, I like the include, a much nicer solution ;)

"lycos.nl"; "query";
"altavista.nl"; "q";
"ixquick.com"; "query";

]]> By: Joost de Valkhttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22396 Joost de Valk Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:03:16 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22396 @Sint: I think they add the european ones to have some more specific measurement...@Andre: I'll have to look into it even more, because I don't see it showing up in my referrers...Next to that, I've almost finished a WordPress plugin which add Google Analytics AND this custom script. @Sint: I think they add the european ones to have some more specific measurement...

@Andre: I'll have to look into it even more, because I don't see it showing up in my referrers...

Next to that, I've almost finished a WordPress plugin which add Google Analytics AND this custom script.

]]> By: Sinthttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22394 Sint Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:50:58 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22394 It looks like the _uOsr-values specify a key string that has to be found within the host name of the referer. In Google's own list of search engines, they have a string 'google' (so not 'google.com' or like that). I think that every domain or subdomain that contains this specified string AND has the query variable set is considerred a search engine. This means all the localized google domains are recognized and images.google.* too.In the GA Experts script there are no such things anymore as the default search engines that Google already recognizes, because the two arrays within the script that specify them are re-initalized (var _uOsr=new Array();) and afterwards filled again. Since Google proves with it's own configuration that it is able to detect 'all' google domains by just specifying the string 'google', I think there would be no real need for all the national domain extensions that are being added manually in the GA Experts script (for Google and Yahoo). You only would have to specify the string where you want Google to look at in the domain name just before the domain extension. It looks like the _uOsr-values specify a key string that has to be found within the host name of the referer. In Google's own list of search engines, they have a string 'google' (so not 'google.com' or like that). I think that every domain or subdomain that contains this specified string AND has the query variable set is considerred a search engine. This means all the localized google domains are recognized and images.google.* too.

In the GA Experts script there are no such things anymore as the default search engines that Google already recognizes, because the two arrays within the script that specify them are re-initalized (var _uOsr=new Array();) and afterwards filled again.
Since Google proves with it's own configuration that it is able to detect 'all' google domains by just specifying the string 'google', I think there would be no real need for all the national domain extensions that are being added manually in the GA Experts script (for Google and Yahoo). You only would have to specify the string where you want Google to look at in the domain name just before the domain extension.

]]> By: Heather Paquinashttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22389 Heather Paquinas Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:29:25 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22389 Another painful site that seems impossible to track is google base/google product search (formerly froogle). There's no way to separate it from regular google traffic since it moved to google.com/products from froogle.google.com. Another painful site that seems impossible to track is google base/google product search (formerly froogle). There's no way to separate it from regular google traffic since it moved to google.com/products from froogle.google.com.

]]> By: Joost de Valkhttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22387 Joost de Valk Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:31:28 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22387 If you pick the latest version, it should display as organic... If you pick the latest version, it should display as organic...

]]> By: Joost de Valkhttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22386 Joost de Valk Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:30:06 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22386 You do? Ha, now that's stupid... I'll add it to my script. You do? Ha, now that's stupid... I'll add it to my script.

]]> By: André Scholtenhttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22385 André Scholten Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:28:26 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22385 @Joost: I see the images.google domain as a refferrer, not as organic ;) @Joost: I see the images.google domain as a refferrer, not as organic ;)

]]> By: Tinushttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22384 Tinus Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:18:38 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22384 I can use this for images.google.* and blogsearch.google.* if I'm correct? I can use this for images.google.* and blogsearch.google.* if I'm correct?

]]> By: Joost de Valkhttp://yoast.com/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22383 Joost de Valk Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:07:31 +0000 http://www.joostdevalk.nl/google-analytics-adding-search-engines/#comment-22383 @Heather: yeah in this script I added some Dutch portals, since they seem to be used a lot, you could make your own for these portals of course!@Andre: I think that's captured by the default "google" search engine... @Heather: yeah in this script I added some Dutch portals, since they seem to be used a lot, you could make your own for these portals of course!

@Andre: I think that's captured by the default "google" search engine...

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