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> <channel><title>Comments on: Click here to read all about a natural link profile</title> <atom:link href="http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile</link> <description>Tweaking Websites</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:04:22 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Getoninter.net Web Development</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-34771</link> <dc:creator>Getoninter.net Web Development</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:38:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-34771</guid> <description>Its a good job a came across this post i always use click here links. In my point of view it makes easy for the reader but as i now am paying close attention to SEO. I understand that search engines look at links differently to the user its getting the half way point that matters, especially with Google and Yahoo cutting right down on spam nowadays.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a good job a came across this post i always use click here links. In my point of view it makes easy for the reader but as i now am paying close attention to SEO. I understand that search engines look at links differently to the user its getting the half way point that matters, especially with Google and Yahoo cutting right down on spam nowadays.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: James</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-29416</link> <dc:creator>James</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:25:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-29416</guid> <description>I take naruto&#039;s comment - but practice is only so good for an indeterminate period of time - it will change or modify eventually.  And i for one would also like to see more recognition on the engines&#039; part for descriptive link text actually presenting an accurate overview of the website linked to.  Forget this &quot;click here&quot; business - not only is it bad for the backlink, it also makes for harder understanding of the piece.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take naruto's comment - but practice is only so good for an indeterminate period of time - it will change or modify eventually.  And i for one would also like to see more recognition on the engines' part for descriptive link text actually presenting an accurate overview of the website linked to.  Forget this "click here" business - not only is it bad for the backlink, it also makes for harder understanding of the piece.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bret heart bobby</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-26084</link> <dc:creator>Bret heart bobby</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 05:20:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-26084</guid> <description>Thanks for writing this, Brian. Now Iâ€™ll have something to point to when the boss tells me that we should ALWAYS use keyword-rich anchor text, instead of â€œclick here,â€? no matter what the situation.Often, â€œclick hereâ€? is the best anchor text to use, especially when youâ€™re trying to make a sale!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing this, Brian. Now Iâ€™ll have something to point to when the boss tells me that we should ALWAYS use keyword-rich anchor text, instead of â€œclick here,â€? no matter what the situation.</p><p>Often, â€œclick hereâ€? is the best anchor text to use, especially when youâ€™re trying to make a sale!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: naruto</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-26039</link> <dc:creator>naruto</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:31:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-26039</guid> <description>everything what are you talking about is a guess. google is not perfect, google is just a product with much problem to solve.
what are you talking about is a perfect search engine.whant to know how google look link profile? ONLY one way: practice.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everything what are you talking about is a guess. google is not perfect, google is just a product with much problem to solve.<br
/> what are you talking about is a perfect search engine.</p><p>whant to know how google look link profile? ONLY one way: practice.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sint Smeding</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24593</link> <dc:creator>Sint Smeding</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:32:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24593</guid> <description>@David: I get your point, but wouldn&#039;t it be easy to notice when the usage of competitive keywords is legitimate or not? With all the information search engines gather, would it be hard to find out when a word combination is relative for the content, or &quot;just a label&quot;, like a company name? And the language the word is in could also be chosen based on the surrounding content...
I agree that my theory is a bit controversial, but I just think that a &quot;natural link profile&quot; should be dependant on the content used on the website too. Especially because of the possible usage of company and personal names in links.A company that put a keyword in it&#039;s companyname should neither be penalized, nor receive an advantage to companies that didn&#039;t. But if the link descriptions and keyword profiling/density used are not in relation to a website&#039;s content AND the keywords used are very popular, this increases the suspect of a non-natural link profile.Let&#039;s also not forget that a link description is not only a way to optimize your website for search engines, but it is also a way a webmaster describes what is behind a link. So if there are 1000 websites that are linked by the text &#039;seo blog&#039;, the importance of this text is less relevant in comparison to 10 websites that are linked with description &#039;best apple pie recipe ever&#039;.
I strongly believe it would be very useful to search engines if they could have a slight idea when a link description was just made up because someone wants to rank good for a certain keyword string, or because someone thought &quot;hey, this describes exactly what is to be found out there&quot;.Maybe there is not a direct connection, but I suspect that there is at least a bit of influence on a website&#039;s karma or authority for these keywords.But it could also be nonsense what I&#039;m saying :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David: I get your point, but wouldn't it be easy to notice when the usage of competitive keywords is legitimate or not? With all the information search engines gather, would it be hard to find out when a word combination is relative for the content, or "just a label", like a company name? And the language the word is in could also be chosen based on the surrounding content...<br
/> I agree that my theory is a bit controversial, but I just think that a "natural link profile" should be dependant on the content used on the website too. Especially because of the possible usage of company and personal names in links.</p><p>A company that put a keyword in it's companyname should neither be penalized, nor receive an advantage to companies that didn't. But if the link descriptions and keyword profiling/density used are not in relation to a website's content AND the keywords used are very popular, this increases the suspect of a non-natural link profile.</p><p>Let's also not forget that a link description is not only a way to optimize your website for search engines, but it is also a way a webmaster describes what is behind a link. So if there are 1000 websites that are linked by the text 'seo blog', the importance of this text is less relevant in comparison to 10 websites that are linked with description 'best apple pie recipe ever'.<br
/> I strongly believe it would be very useful to search engines if they could have a slight idea when a link description was just made up because someone wants to rank good for a certain keyword string, or because someone thought "hey, this describes exactly what is to be found out there".</p><p>Maybe there is not a direct connection, but I suspect that there is at least a bit of influence on a website's karma or authority for these keywords.</p><p>But it could also be nonsense what I'm saying :-)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Hopkins</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24548</link> <dc:creator>David Hopkins</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:15:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24548</guid> <description>Sint, you bring up an interesting idea there that a search engine could use the competition of a keyword to weigh out whether someone is spamming. However, there are some cases where a company might be legitimately using competitive link text. For example, the Society for Experimental Mechanics will have a lot of link text with their acronym, SEM.I think that it would be too dangerous for a search engine to put much resources into monitoring something such as this because the results would be too unpredictable. Search engines donâ€™t want to be known for accidentally penalising a site for just having their company name or acronym in their link text. Another thing to keep in mind is that the same string of letters (a word) can have different meanings in different countries. For example in Portuguese the word â€˜semâ€™ translates to English as â€˜withoutâ€™ and hence would have a huge number of web pages that would be returned for that keyword. Despite being an acronym for Search Engine Marketing, the string â€˜semâ€™ is very uncompetitive in the UK and US. Should an English language site be marginalised because their company name is an extremely competitive search in another language or context. It just bring up too many questions.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sint, you bring up an interesting idea there that a search engine could use the competition of a keyword to weigh out whether someone is spamming. However, there are some cases where a company might be legitimately using competitive link text. For example, the Society for Experimental Mechanics will have a lot of link text with their acronym, SEM.</p><p>I think that it would be too dangerous for a search engine to put much resources into monitoring something such as this because the results would be too unpredictable. Search engines donâ€™t want to be known for accidentally penalising a site for just having their company name or acronym in their link text. Another thing to keep in mind is that the same string of letters (a word) can have different meanings in different countries. For example in Portuguese the word â€˜semâ€™ translates to English as â€˜withoutâ€™ and hence would have a huge number of web pages that would be returned for that keyword. Despite being an acronym for Search Engine Marketing, the string â€˜semâ€™ is very uncompetitive in the UK and US. Should an English language site be marginalised because their company name is an extremely competitive search in another language or context. It just bring up too many questions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sint Smeding</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24510</link> <dc:creator>Sint Smeding</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:47:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24510</guid> <description>I totally agree with your story Joost. Google can (and will) indeed examin the pattern of the description of all your internal links to get a view of your link building intentions.Like you said, it&#039;s a bit suspicious if you gain, say, 100 inlinks within a week with only three different linked texts. But Google will get more convinced of your evil plans when you&#039;re not only having just a few variations of link descriptions, but also when these descriptions contain keywords that are strongly popular.Me spamming my links around the web by commenting on several blogs with the text &quot;Sint Smeding&quot; attached to it, won&#039;t be such a big deal because this string is pretty unique. But with all the knowledge Google has of the web, they can easily detect which keywords are the most competitive. If you are optimizing your inbound links with keywords like &#039;seo&#039; or &#039;insurance&#039;, alarm bells might start ringing much earlier than when you are trying to get some more links for &#039;best recipe for apple pie&#039;.Like you say in your post and we discussed by IM, putting valuable keywords in your link texts is smart, but it would be stupid to over do it, like most things in SEO.
I strongly believe the best way to build your link popularity is to write good content, so the choice of the link text will be left over to the creativity of whoever decided they wanted to add a link to your site :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with your story Joost. Google can (and will) indeed examin the pattern of the description of all your internal links to get a view of your link building intentions.</p><p>Like you said, it's a bit suspicious if you gain, say, 100 inlinks within a week with only three different linked texts. But Google will get more convinced of your evil plans when you're not only having just a few variations of link descriptions, but also when these descriptions contain keywords that are strongly popular.</p><p>Me spamming my links around the web by commenting on several blogs with the text "Sint Smeding" attached to it, won't be such a big deal because this string is pretty unique. But with all the knowledge Google has of the web, they can easily detect which keywords are the most competitive. If you are optimizing your inbound links with keywords like 'seo' or 'insurance', alarm bells might start ringing much earlier than when you are trying to get some more links for 'best recipe for apple pie'.</p><p>Like you say in your post and we discussed by IM, putting valuable keywords in your link texts is smart, but it would be stupid to over do it, like most things in SEO.<br
/> I strongly believe the best way to build your link popularity is to write good content, so the choice of the link text will be left over to the creativity of whoever decided they wanted to add a link to your site :-)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Much Ado about Anchor Text &#8224; Hamlet Batista dot Com</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24479</link> <dc:creator>Much Ado about Anchor Text &#8224; Hamlet Batista dot Com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:16:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24479</guid> <description>[...] on your links every once in a while. Besides providing click-through advantages, it can help make your link profile look natural and avoid search engine filters. Just don&#8217;t forget to use your keywords in the surrounding [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on your links every once in a while. Besides providing click-through advantages, it can help make your link profile look natural and avoid search engine filters. Just don&rsquo;t forget to use your keywords in the surrounding [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Hopkins</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24299</link> <dc:creator>David Hopkins</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:26:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24299</guid> <description>There was an interesting post on Matt Cutt&#039;s blog a while back which gives you some insights into what Google are actually doing in regards to &#039;natural link text&#039; rather than all the theories that have become artificial reality via the blogosphere. Just fishing it out ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/indexing-timeline/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Click Here!&lt;/a&gt;:P</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was an interesting post on Matt Cutt's blog a while back which gives you some insights into what Google are actually doing in regards to 'natural link text' rather than all the theories that have become artificial reality via the blogosphere. Just fishing it out ... <a
href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/indexing-timeline/" rel="nofollow">Click Here!</a></p><p>:P</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SearchCap: The Day In Search, September 18, 2007</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24111</link> <dc:creator>SearchCap: The Day In Search, September 18, 2007</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:54:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24111</guid> <description>[...] Click here to feature every most a uncolored unification profile, Joost de Valk [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Click here to feature every most a uncolored unification profile, Joost de Valk [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: This Week In SEO - 9/21/07 - TheVanBlog</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24042</link> <dc:creator>This Week In SEO - 9/21/07 - TheVanBlog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:29:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24042</guid> <description>[...] Click here to read all about a natural link profile [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Click here to read all about a natural link profile [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Link Building this week (21-09) &#124; Wiep.net</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24027</link> <dc:creator>Link Building this week (21-09) &#124; Wiep.net</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:00:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24027</guid> <description>[...] Brian Clark received several reactions to his post on Copyblogger.com, Ben Yoskowitz talked about five different types of links on the [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Brian Clark received several reactions to his post on Copyblogger.com, Ben Yoskowitz talked about five different types of links on the [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Click here; analyzing a natural link profile &#124; Wiep.net</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24015</link> <dc:creator>Click here; analyzing a natural link profile &#124; Wiep.net</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:57:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-24015</guid> <description>[...] I read Joost de Valk&#8217;s SEO minded reply to the post about To click here or not to click here at Copyblogger.com, I just had to try and see [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I read Joost de Valk&#8217;s SEO minded reply to the post about To click here or not to click here at Copyblogger.com, I just had to try and see [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: missfitsbiz &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wird &#8220;hier klicken&#8221; wieder modern?</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-23874</link> <dc:creator>missfitsbiz &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wird &#8220;hier klicken&#8221; wieder modern?</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 05:49:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-23874</guid> <description>[...] da nicht der ausgesprochen interessante Ansatz von Joost de Falk. Er stellt die These auf, dass das Vorhandensein von Linktexten wie &#8220;hier klicken&#8221;, [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] da nicht der ausgesprochen interessante Ansatz von Joost de Falk. Er stellt die These auf, dass das Vorhandensein von Linktexten wie &#8220;hier klicken&#8221;, [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Johannes</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-23792</link> <dc:creator>Johannes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:15:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-23792</guid> <description>Couldn&#039;t agree more. Yahoo had an interesting paper on this: http://research.yahoo.com/node/398/2821</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn't agree more. Yahoo had an interesting paper on this: <a
href="http://research.yahoo.com/node/398/2821" rel="nofollow">http://research.yahoo.com/node/398/2821</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Liam Delahunty</title><link>http://yoast.com/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-23769</link> <dc:creator>Liam Delahunty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:03:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.joostdevalk.nl/click-here-to-read-all-about-a-natural-link-profile/#comment-23769</guid> <description>Furthermore with &quot;click here&quot; type links, Google will look at the surrounding text so the link is not entirely wasted for keywords.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furthermore with "click here" type links, Google will look at the surrounding text so the link is not entirely wasted for keywords.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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